Uttarakhand 24x7: [Kumauni-Garhwali] Digest Number 2714[2 Attachments]

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1a. Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र क�
From: arvind upreti
1b. Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र क�
From: arvind upreti
1c. Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र क�
From: Khulbe Garden & Agro Industries
1d. Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र क�
From: Sunil
1e. Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र क�
From: pandey lalit
1f. Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र क�
From: arvind upreti

2. Puri Shankaracharya supports govt action against Ramdev
From: Khulbe Garden & Agro Industries

3a. Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र क�
From: Khulbe Garden & Agro Industries

4. Seeking Help for my friend Atul
From: sanju

5. Fwd A Legendary Story of Negi Chauhan
From: bhishma kukreti

6. Bwari : A Most Distinguished Humorous Poem of Asia ब्वा�
From: bhishma kukreti

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1a. Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र क�
Posted by: "arvind upreti" arvind1965@yahoo.com arvind1965
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2011 7:53 am ((PDT))

Can the government cant wait till morning. Is this is the only and last way.
yes it was the last way because the manner in which ramdev escaped in a shalwar suite and his chela Balkrishan eloped....agar woh pakada nahee jataa to subah tak kuch bhee allegation lagaa deta ...and media is there to broadcast jhooths without verifying anything..... .There was no reason of their trying to escape...when you are on "ammran anshan" you are there to die ,then what are you running from...arrest ....he had back tracked on his written promise, when he saw the mahaul created by him....he got under an illusion that he was bigger than anybody...
Government knew ki ye bependey ka lota hai ,this is the reason written statement was taken...

---That was the best time to catch him unawares,or else if it was day time ,a serious law and order situation would have been cretaed by him....the way he was behaving...you could have seen his body language the night before on TV...dekha nahee kursi kee daud mein partiyan kaise haath sekh rahee hain....unhe pataa bhee nahee ki unka hee vote bank ye sarka rahaa hai....

Hats off to Delhi police ,it was such a clean and clinical operation to disburse a lac strong mob.....subah to khisiyani billi khamba noche wala khel chal rahaa thaa...
Dont club Anna and Ramdev .......Anna ne bheed ko keencha tha ...aur ye pressure tactics ke liye bheed ko buson mein bhar kar laa rahaa thaa.....Saarey shahron mein buses khadi thee aur free mein bheed la rahee thee......Neta aisa karen to chor hain ....aur baba karey to dhram karm ka kaam....

RAHEE BAAT UTTRAKHAND KI

Congress ayee ,ND ne itna kiya to bhee galat
BJP aayeee Nishank aur Kanduri bhee paanch saal mein sab galat...
UKD ka pataa nahee.....Ab nirdaliyon kee sarkaar banana BMW ya Ramdev samarthit ,to hee bhagya jagega pradesh ka.....

--- On Tue, 6/7/11, Vivek Patwal <vivekpatwal@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: Vivek Patwal <vivekpatwal@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र की हत्या
To: "YOUNG UTTARANCHAL" <younguttaranchal@yahoogroups.com>, "PG Group" <PauriGarhwal@yahoogroups.com>, "K G" <kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com>, "JNV Tarikhet" <jnv-tarikhet@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 3:40 PM

Dear All,
I recieved so many mails in this regards. Earlier in my mail I already mentioned that both parties are guilty but the way Government worked out to stop the satyagrah was wrong. But at midnight when the people are sleeping, is that action is right. Can the government cant wait till morning. Is this is the only and last way.
I am supporting this cause because since last 14-15 years India is in top countries in Corruption. Anna and Baba give us faith that we can fight with corruption.

*And manohar ji, presently I am in Delhi and will surely visit jantar mantar on 8th June to support Anna.

*And one thing India is above then Uttarakhand.

*About Uttarakhand I will say that take Participation in Uttarakhand Election (by voting power) and try to elect Honest and Hardworking candidate and also aware the people around you. Do not go with Party, Surely we can change our Uttarakhand Future.

VIVEK PATWAL,

Mobile no. 9811511501,

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1b. Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र क�
Posted by: "arvind upreti" arvind1965@yahoo.com arvind1965
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2011 7:55 am ((PDT))

Lalit Bhai ,
Dont get emotional ...loktantra ki hatya is creating a parellel stream bypassing democratical means which ramdev was doing by bringing in people by bus loads .Buses free mein nahee aati hain.....

My few very simple question are...
1) Who says that a Yogi (sadhu) can not lead a mass movement or be a Politician, when a doctor, lawyer, teacher, business can do it.. why can't a shadu?
Not worried not concerned but dont fool masses by confusing issues.form apolitiacl party and fight elections....saadhus in politics is nothing new...Mahesh Yogi...mahants...fight politiacl battles politically.
2) Don't you think corruption has reached into its heights now
In an developing economic scenario, when due to competition too little is chasing too much , this is bound to happen...This is human nature...it may swell more ...and it is a world wide phenomnon....there are twenty seats in a college ....30 candidates...u have money .would u sit quiet and not make efforts for your child...if yes, then it is human nature...government cannot stop it.
3) Don't you agree that current government is not doing enough for bringing black money back to country / and black money hidden in our own country into the main stream.
Government is taking all legal measures but there are difference between legal steps and sensationailing issues.What do you think are these PAN nos.KYC compliance etc.can this happen over night.
4) Don't you think our PM has the same answer for all the problems .. i don't have a magic stick.. You can not control increasing prices, you not not control corruption, you can not bring back black money, you can not stop kalmadi, you can not stop raja etc. .. he has been in power for 6 years... and one doesn't need a magic stick to correct things if he has will to do it.
He is not having a magic wand.he started from 1991 with Narsimha Rao and sowly and steadily now we count us as a world economic super power.We want good persons in politics and then we dont allow them to perform..
For he first time so many big shots are behind bars and nobody is helping them out ,is this not an example setting to corrupts.....We all, opposition can go to TV studio and talk whatever we feel like....but government does not works on sensationalism....evry move can set a precedent...every law when it is initiated every pro and con has to be studied so that it cannot be misused....
6 saal ......ask this question to opposition parties ..why 6 years is nothing to change a country ...They want result in one month ,and were unable to do anything for Ramlala in 6 years in government.....now saving their ..... thru Ramdev...next will be Rambo ,then Rameez raza.

Now coming back to the issue of Ramdev baba, he might not be all honest... but who can claim that he is Harishchandra?

Accha , to agar time pass hee karna hain then anytime, I would like to go and see Rakhi Sawant dancing on ramlila ground ......rather than ramdev roaming around in a shalwar kameez ...who knows she may turn out to be a better politician....

--- On Tue, 6/7/11, pandey lalit <lalit_mohan_pandey@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: pandey lalit <lalit_mohan_pandey@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र की हत्या
To: kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 2:25 PM

Dear Arvind ji..

With full respect.. I disagree with all your points ... and strongly condemn changing subject from "लोकतंत्र की हत्या" to "लोकतंत्र की हत्या Baba ke dwara" by you.. I find this an attempt to shift the whole discussion from what happened on that night at Ramlila madain to weather Ramdev baba is correct or not...weather he has a right to protest or not...

My few very simple question are...
1) Who says that a Yogi (sadhu) can not lead a mass movement or be a Politician, when a doctor, lawyer, teacher, business can do it.. why can't a shadu?
2) Don't you think corruption has reached into its heights now
3) Don't you agree that current government is not doing enough for bringing black money back to country / and black money hidden in our own country into the main stream.

4) Don't you think our PM has the same answer for all the problems .. i don't have a magic stick.. You can not control increasing prices, you not not control corruption, you can not bring back black money, you can not stop kalmadi, you can not stop raja etc. .. he has been in power for 6 years... and one doesn't need a magic stick to correct things if he has will to do it.

Now coming back to the issue of Ramdev baba, he might not be all honest... but who can claim that he is Harishchandra? The issue raised by him are of national interest. And everyone should extend their Support to everyone who stands against corruption..irrespective of their name, religion and believe.
Now what happened that night in the Ramlila maidan : How a elected government can do this with their own citizen? People has all the rights to agree with someone and disagree with someone, People has all the rights to support someone and choose not to support someone. How can you through teargas, lathicharge to the people who assembled at ramlila maidan to support ramdev baba and issued raised by him. You do not have to be Hindu, you do not have to be communal to support the issue raised by him. When delhi CM says 'Delhi is not safe for women in the night' How can the same people through out women, girls, kids on the street in the mid of the night. How can an elected representative(KS) be so arrogant.. that he says.. "what we did with people in the ramlila ground should be lesson to all". I don't understand how standing infront of temple makes one communal but going inside Maszid keeps him secular (this is what Digvijay singh thinks).

My message to all the citizen of this country..."This has become more like compulsion then a choice now, if we do not stand today and make our voice heard, these corrupt people will make us voice less."

Regards
Lalit

From: arvind upreti <arvind1965@yahoo.com>
To: kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 6 June, 2011 2:51:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र की हत्या baba ke dwara

Ab ek aadmi jo 10000 crore ka maal kamake,haaj ko jaa rahaa hai ,woh imandaari ka paath padaega....
As long he was teaching YOGA everything was fine....maal kamao,property banao ...island khareedo...cruise per scotland par yoga sikhao ...koi baat nahee....
Ab ek baccha ,politics mein ghusega ...toh sab jagah baap baithe hain...pehle seekho phir aagey bado....
A boisterous narcissist...complexed by the Anna hazare phenomenon ,trying to upstage him and trying to disrupt systems by carpet mobbing.......
Haridwar ke raasstey mein ek Noton bharee train pakadi gayee.....jaanch karne par pataa chala tent house aur chartered plane wale kee payment theee.

--- On Mon, 6/6/11, Vivek Patwal <vivekpatwal@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

आदरणीय सदस्यगण,

जिस तरह की घटना हमें अपने इस लोकतंत्र मे ४-५ तारीख की रात्रि को देखने को मिली, वो बहुत ही ह्रदय विदारक थी. इस घटना ने जलियावालान बाघ की यादे तरो ताज़ा कर दी, जिसके बारे मे हम लोगो सुना मात्र ही था, ऐसी बर्बरता दिखने का दुसाहस जिस प्रकार से केंद्र सरकार ने किया वो निंदनीय है, बाकि उस पर बढा अपराध ये की प्रधानमंत्री महोदय की चुप्पी,
गलतिया दोनों पक्षों की थी, लेकिन अहिंसक लोगो पर ऐसी बर्बरतापूर्वक करवाई अफसोसजनक,
अब तो वास्तव मे लगता है की सरकार की मंशा भ्रस्टाचार से निपटने की कतई नहीं है बाकी रहा व्यवस्था परिवर्तन का सवाल वो जनता के हाथो मे है किवो एक इमानदार नेता का चुनाव करे, पार्टी विशेष को अब हमें नकारना ही होगा, ये शायद जन मानस की अब पुकार है,

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Thanks & Regards,

Vivek Patwal,
PH:9811511501,

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1c. Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र क�
Posted by: "Khulbe Garden & Agro Industries" khulbegarden@yahoo.com khulbegarden
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2011 11:24 pm ((PDT))

Bhai log bahut dukh hua aap logo ka Ramdev ke liye pyar dekhkar.. Aaakhe kholo bhai jo aaj khuleaam ladies suit pahan sakta hai apne bachne ke liye ?? jab ki vaha hajaro log the.. vo kal ko chupke chupke kuchh bhi kar sakta hai... Discuss on the ISSUE OF 70% permanant employement to Uttrakhandi ppl in SIDCUL/Industry in UttrakhandKhanduri CM-BJP- lot of time said jise 70% employment nahi dena hai vo factory band kar dengeNishank- BJP- the same bhashanall ppl of UK working on contract basis.. industrialist ne thaili govt ko de di bas sab chup.. khud corrupt hai aur Ramdev ko UK mai support karti hai BJP why??Why u ppl go with them ask for 70% permanent employment thru RTI from CM ?? atleast 7-8 lac log pakke rojgar mai lag jayenge..Discuss on this subject jaha aapke uttrakhand aur uttrakhand ke logo ka dukh dard kam hota hai Ramdev ka nahi Aur agar ab bhi tum Ramdev Ramdev kahte ho to LANAT hai aise bhaiyo par jo apne ghar ke logo ke aasu pochhne ke
bajay bahar ke logo ke dukh ki chinta karte hai... Ramdev ki chinta karne ko dunia hai bhai aap naa bhi karo to chalega... I am quiting all these groups as i think no one is practical about problem of Uttrakhand and har koi andhere mai teer marta hai sach to ye hai hum sab corrupt hai kisi na kisi mayne mai...RAMDEV ke pas ke gaon mai jakar puchho sach kya hai patanjali ka ya ayur doctor , emplyee jo vaha kaam karte hai..Byee to all .. wish you very best Thanks

Regards

Khulbe

Khulbe Garden & Agro Industries

www.khulbegarden.blogspot.com

DEV BHOOMI TUMHE SAT SAT KOTI NAMAN .....

--- On Tue, 7/6/11, arvind upreti <arvind1965@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: arvind upreti <arvind1965@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र की हत्या
To: kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 7 June, 2011, 1:11 PM

--- On Tue, 6/7/11, pandey lalit <lalit_mohan_pandey@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Arvind ji..

My few very simple question are...
1) Who says that a Yogi (sadhu) can not lead a mass movement or be a Politician, when a doctor, lawyer, teacher, business can do it.. why can't a shadu?
2) Don't you think corruption has reached into its heights now
3) Don't you agree that current government is not doing enough for bringing black money back to country /
and black money hidden in our own country into the main stream.

Now coming back to the issue of Ramdev baba, he might not be all honest... but who can claim that he is Harishchandra? The issue raised by him are of national interest. And everyone should extend their Support to everyone who stands against corruption..irrespective of their name, religion and believe.
Now what happened that night in the Ramlila maidan : How a elected government can do this with their own citizen? People has all the rights to agree with someone and disagree with someone, People has all the rights to support
someone and choose not to support someone. How can you through teargas, lathicharge to the people who assembled at ramlila maidan to support ramdev baba and issued raised by him. You do not have to be Hindu, you do not have to be communal to support the issue raised by him. When delhi CM says 'Delhi is not safe for women in the night' How can the same people through out women, girls, kids on the street in the mid of the night. How can an elected representative(KS) be so arrogant.. that he says.. "what we did with people in the ramlila ground should be lesson to all". I don't understand how standing infront of temple makes one communal but going inside Maszid keeps him secular (this is what Digvijay singh thinks).

Regards
Lalit

--- On Mon, 6/6/11, Vivek Patwal <vivekpatwal@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

आदरणीय सदस्यगण,

जिस तरह की घटना हमें अपने इस लोकतंत्र मे ४-५ तारीख की रात्रि को देखने को मिली, वो बहुत ही ह्रदय विदारक थी. इस घटना ने जलियावालान बाघ की यादे तरो ताज़ा कर दी, जिसके बारे मे हम लोगो सुना मात्र ही था, ऐसी बर्बरता दिखने का दुसाहस जिस प्रकार से केंद्र सरकार ने किया वो निंदनीय है, बाकि उस पर बढा अपराध ये की प्रधानमंत्री महोदय की चुप्पी,
गलतिया
दोनों पक्षों की थी, लेकिन अहिंसक लोगो पर ऐसी बर्बरतापूर्वक करवाई अफसोसजनक,
अब तो वास्तव मे लगता है की सरकार की मंशा भ्रस्टाचार से निपटने की कतई नहीं है बाकी रहा व्यवस्था परिवर्तन का सवाल वो जनता के हाथो मे है किवो एक इमानदार नेता का चुनाव करे, पार्टी विशेष को अब हमें नकारना ही होगा, ये शायद जन मानस की अब पुकार है,

--
Thanks & Regards,

Vivek Patwal,

PH:9811511501,

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1d. Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र क�
Posted by: "Sunil" skumars71@yahoo.com skumars71
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2011 11:28 pm ((PDT))

Arvind Ji,

Well have been seeing u'r comments on various topics and they are really having good logic and thinking and shows your ability of good critic which is obsoletely necessary so that people are aware of both sides of the coins.

But contrary to your views there will other side of the coin as well, which shows some positive aspects of what Baba Ramdev and to some extent Anna Hazare and team has done.Arvind Kejriwal and Koiran Bedi who initially have been bogged down by the Govt..but they stood firm and fight the cause and that's why have seen RTI which has helped thousands of people who have used it to get the work done w/o any payoffs..

Similarly, the said anshans or staygrah has put tons of pressure on the Govt and sooner or later they have to bring something whether in the name of lokpal or whatever name which will help us in long term to eradicate corruption....Nobody can achieve an idealistic scenario in a single day or say even months but it gives a positive Philip towards right direction

Whether u or I support it or not now its not going to matter as winds of change have started flowing and u n I will be witnessing changes in the times to come no matter who started it or who supported it..!!!!!!!!!

Regards,

Sunil

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From: arvind upreti <arvind1965@yahoo.com>
To: kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र की हत्या

Lalit Bhai ,
Dont get emotional ...loktantra ki hatya is creating a parellel stream bypassing democratical means which ramdev was doing by bringing in people by bus loads .Buses free mein nahee aati hain.....

My few very simple question are...
1) Who says that a Yogi (sadhu) can not lead a mass movement or be a Politician, when a doctor, lawyer, teacher, business can do it.. why can't a shadu?
Not worried not concerned but dont fool masses by confusing issues.form apolitiacl party and fight elections....saadhus in politics is nothing new...Mahesh Yogi...mahants...fight politiacl battles politically.
2) Don't you think corruption has reached into its heights now
In an developing economic scenario, when due to competition too little is chasing too much , this is bound to happen...This is human nature...it may swell more ...and it is a world wide phenomnon....there are twenty seats in a college ....30 candidates...u have money .would u sit quiet and not make efforts for your child...if yes, then it is human nature...government cannot stop it.
3) Don't you agree that current government is not doing enough for bringing black money back to country / and black money hidden in our own country into the main stream.
Government is taking all legal measures but there are difference between legal steps and sensationailing issues.What do you think are these PAN nos.KYC compliance etc.can this happen over night.
4)Don't you think our PM has the same answer for all the problems .. i don't have a magic stick.. You can not control increasing prices, you not not control corruption, you can not bring back black money, you can not stop kalmadi, you can not stop raja etc. .. he has been in power for 6 years... and one doesn't need a magic stick to correct things if he has will to do it.
He is not having a magic wand.he started from 1991 with Narsimha Rao and sowly and steadily now we count us as a world economic super power.We want good persons in politics and then we dont allow them to perform..
For he first time so many big shots are behind bars and nobody is helping them out ,is this not an example setting to corrupts.....We all, opposition can go to TV studio and talk whatever we feel like....but government does not works on sensationalism....evry move can set a precedent...every law when it is initiated every pro and con has to be studied so that it cannot be misused....
6 saal ......ask this question to opposition parties ..why 6 years is nothing to change a country ...They want result in one month ,and were unable to do anything for Ramlala in 6 years in government.....now saving their ..... thru Ramdev...next will be Rambo ,then Rameez raza.

Now coming back to the issue of Ramdev baba, he might not be all honest... but who can claim that he is Harishchandra?

Accha , to agar time pass hee karna hain then anytime, I would like to go and see Rakhi Sawant dancing on ramlila ground ......rather than ramdev roaming around in a shalwar kameez ...who knows she may turn out to be a better politician....

--- On Tue, 6/7/11, pandey lalit <lalit_mohan_pandey@yahoo.com> wrote:

>From: pandey lalit <lalit_mohan_pandey@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र की हत्या
>To: kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 2:25 PM
>
>
>
>Dear Arvind ji..
>
>With full respect.. I disagree with all your points ... and strongly condemn changing subject from "लोकतंत्र की हत्या" to "लोकतंत्र की हत्या Baba ke dwara" by you.. I find this an attempt to shift the whole discussion from what happened on that night at Ramlila madain to weather Ramdev baba is correct or not...weather he has a right to protest or not...
>
>My few very simple question are...
>1) Who says that a Yogi (sadhu) can not lead a mass movement or be a Politician, when a doctor, lawyer, teacher, business can do it.. why can't a shadu?
>2) Don't you think corruption has reached into its heights now
>3) Don't you agree that current government is not doing enough for bringing black money back to country /
and black money hidden in our own country into the main stream.
>
>4) Don't you think our PM has the same answer for all the problems .. i don't have a magic stick.. You can not control increasing prices, you not not control corruption, you can not bring back black money, you can not stop kalmadi, you can not stop raja etc. .. he has been in power for 6 years... and one doesn't need a magic stick to correct things if he has will to do it.
>
>Now coming back to the issue of Ramdev baba, he might not be all honest... but who can claim that he is Harishchandra? The issue raised by him are of national interest. And everyone shouldextend their Support to everyone who stands against corruption..irrespective of their name, religion and believe.
>Now what happened that night in the Ramlila maidan : How a elected government can do this with their own citizen? People has all the rights to agree with someone and disagree with someone, People has all the rights to support
someone and choose not to support someone. How can you through teargas, lathicharge to the people who assembled at ramlila maidan to support ramdev baba and issued raised by him. You do not have to be Hindu, you do not have to be communal to support the issue raised by him. When delhi CM says 'Delhi is not safe for women in the night' How can the same people through out women, girls, kids on the street in the mid of the night. How can an elected representative(KS) be so arrogant.. that he says.. "what we did with people in the ramlila ground should be lesson to all". I don't understand how standing infront of temple makes one communal but going inside Maszid keeps him secular (this is what Digvijay singh thinks).
>
>
>My message to all the citizen of this country..."This has become more like compulsion then a choice now, if we do not stand today and make our voice heard, these corrupt people will make us voice less."
>
>Regards
>Lalit
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: arvind upreti <arvind1965@yahoo.com>
>To: kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Mon, 6 June, 2011 2:51:44 PM
>Subject: Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र की हत्या baba ke dwara
>
>
>Ab ek aadmi jo 10000 crore ka maal kamake,haaj ko jaa rahaa hai ,woh imandaari ka paath padaega....
>As long he was teaching YOGA everything was fine....maal kamao,property banao ...island khareedo...cruise per scotland par yoga sikhao ...koi baat nahee....
>Ab ek baccha ,politics mein ghusega ...toh sab jagah baap baithe hain...pehle seekho phir aagey bado....
>A boisterous narcissist...complexed by the Anna hazare phenomenon ,trying to upstage him and trying to disrupt systems by carpet mobbing.......
>Haridwar ke raasstey mein ek Noton bharee train pakadi gayee.....jaanch karne par pataa chala tent house aur chartered plane wale kee payment theee.
>
>--- On Mon, 6/6/11, Vivek Patwal <vivekpatwal@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Vivek Patwal <vivekpatwal@yahoo.co.in>
>>Subject: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र की हत्या
>>To: "YOUNG UTTARANCHAL" <younguttaranchal@yahoogroups.com>, "PG Group" <PauriGarhwal@yahoogroups.com>, "K G" <kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com>, "JNV Tarikhet" <jnv-tarikhet@yahoogroups.com>
>>Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 11:29 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>आदरणीय सदस्यगण,
>>
>>जिस तरह की घटना हमें अपने इस लोकतंत्र मे ४-५ तारीख की रात्रि को देखने को मिली, वो बहुत ही ह्रदय विदारक थी. इस घटना ने जलियावालान बाघ की यादे तरो ताज़ा कर दी, जिसके बारे मे हम लोगो सुना मात्र ही था, ऐसी बर्बरता दिखने का दुसाहस जिस प्रकार से केंद्र सरकार ने किया वो निंदनीय है, बाकि उस पर बढा अपराध ये की प्रधानमंत्री महोदय की चुप्पी,
>>गलतिया
दोनों पक्षों की थी, लेकिन अहिंसक लोगो पर ऐसी बर्बरतापूर्वक करवाई अफसोसजनक,
>>अब तो वास्तव मे लगता है की सरकार की मंशा भ्रस्टाचार से निपटने की कतई नहीं है बाकी रहा व्यवस्था परिवर्तन का सवाल वो जनता के हाथो मे है किवो एक इमानदार नेता का चुनाव करे, पार्टी विशेष को अब हमें नकारना ही होगा, ये शायद जन मानस की अब पुकार है,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Thanks & Regards,
>>
>> Vivek Patwal,
>>
PH:9811511501,
>>
>>
>>
>>

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1e. Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र क�
Posted by: "pandey lalit" lalit_mohan_pandey@yahoo.com lalit_mohan_pandey
Date: Wed Jun 8, 2011 12:46 am ((PDT))

Khulbe Ji...

Kyon kahta hai uttarakhand mai corruption nahi hai,... poore desh mai hai.. jis
bhi state mai dekho..har jagah hai...tabhi to aaj ye ladayi ladne ki jarurat aan
padi hai...kyon kah raha hai BJP corrupt nahi hai... agar BJP corrupt nahi hoti
to is ladae ki jarurat nahi padti.. har 5 sal mai election hote hai..log VOTE ke
dhawa chagne le aate.. problem to yahi hai ki koe alternate nahi bacha... isi
liye to poore system ko hi sahi karne ki jarurat hai.jiske liye ladna padega...
rather aapki mails se ye impression ja raha hai ki Congress corrupt nahi hai..or
unke khilaf awaj nahi uthni chahiye.. jabki wo bhi corrupt logu se bhari padi
hai..rather jo bhi aaj corruption desh mai faila hai..uske liye sabse jyada ye
hi jhumedar hai.. or

Rahi bat Ram dev baba ki... Question ye to hai hi nahi ki Ram Dev baba corrupt
hai ya nahi.. question ye hai ki Corrupt system ke khilaf koe to khada ko..koe
to awaj uchi kare.. believe me agar aaj aap bhi is corrupt system ke khilaf awaj
uthayenge to log aapke sath bhi khade honge... Ram dev baba ko to chalo lag
jante the..isliye unke sath hue..per Anna hazare ko jyada log nahi jante the
isase pahle.. lekin unke sath bhi log aaye.. unhe bhi logu ne samarthan diya...

Jaha tak bat sirf uttarakhand mai sudhar lane ki hai, agar koe sakht kanoon
bante hai.. black money wapas aata hai... kanoon ka dar logu ke man mai ho
to...corruption kam ho to usase uttarakhand ka bhi utna hi fayda hoga jitne or
states ko... yah poore desh ki problem hai sirf uttarakhand ki hi nahi..isliye
jaruri hai ki poore desh mai awaj uthe..poore desh ke sandarp mai bat ho...

Best regards
Lalit

________________________________
From: Khulbe Garden & Agro Industries <khulbegarden@yahoo.com>
To: kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com
Cc: arju <uttranchalkalasangam@googlegroups.com>;
kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com; lama1126in@yahoo.co.in; Mahipal
<Extreme_Uttranchal@yahoogroups.com>; mumbaiuttarakhandi
<mumbaiuttarakhandi@yahoogroups.com>; nbartwal@yahoo.com; Pauri Garhwal
<PauriGarhwal@yahoogroups.com>; rakeshkandwal@yahoo.com;
uprety_deep@yahoo.co.in; younguttaranchal mygroup
<younguttaranchal@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, 7 June, 2011 9:59:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र की हत्या

Discuss on the ISSUE OF 70% permanant employement to Uttrakhandi ppl in
SIDCUL/Industry in Uttrakhand
Khanduri CM-BJP- lot of time said jise 70% employment nahi dena hai vo factory
band kar denge
Nishank- BJP- the same bhashan
all ppl of UK working on contract basis.. industrialist ne thaili govt ko de di
bas sab chup.. khud corrupt hai aur Ramdev ko UK mai support karti hai BJP why??
Why u ppl go with them ask for 70% permanent employment thru RTI from CM ??
atleast 7-8 lac log pakke rojgar mai lag jayenge..
Discuss on this subject jaha aapke uttrakhand aur uttrakhand ke logo ka dukh
dard kam hota hai Ramdev ka nahi
Aur agar ab bhi tum Ramdev Ramdev kahte ho to LANAT hai aise bhaiyo par jo apne
ghar ke logo ke aasu pochhne ke bajay bahar ke logo ke dukh ki chinta karte
hai... Ramdev ki chinta karne ko dunia hai bhai aap naa bhi karo to chalega...
I am quiting all these groups as i think no one is practical about problem of
Uttrakhand and har koi andhere mai teer marta hai sach to ye hai hum sab corrupt
hai kisi na kisi mayne mai...RAMDEV ke pas ke gaon mai jakar puchho sach kya hai
patanjali ka ya ayur doctor , emplyee jo vaha kaam karte hai..
Byee to all .. wish you very best
Thanks

Regards

Khulbe
Khulbe Garden & Agro Industries
www.khulbegarden.blogspot.com

DEV BHOOMI TUMHE SAT SAT KOTI NAMAN .....

--- On Tue, 7/6/11, arvind upreti <arvind1965@yahoo.com> wrote:

>From: arvind upreti <arvind1965@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र की हत्या
>To: kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Tuesday, 7 June, 2011, 1:11 PM
>
>
>
>Lalit Bhai ,
>Dont get emotional ...loktantra ki hatya is creating a parellel stream bypassing
>democratical means which ramdev was doing by bringing in people by bus loads
>.Buses free mein nahee aati hain.....
>
>
>
>My few very simple question are...
>1) Who says that a Yogi (sadhu) can not lead a mass movement or be a Politician,
>when a doctor, lawyer, teacher, business can do it.. why can't a shadu?
> Not worried not concerned but dont fool masses by confusing issues.form
>apolitiacl party and fight elections....saadhus in politics is nothing
>new...Mahesh Yogi...mahants...fight politiacl battles politically.
>2) Don't you think corruption has reached into its heights now
>In an developing economic scenario, when due to competition too little is
>chasing too much , this is bound to happen...This is human nature...it may swell
>more ...and it is a world wide phenomnon....there are twenty seats in a college
>....30 candidates...u have money .would u sit quiet and not make efforts for
>your child...if yes, then it is human nature...government cannot stop it.
>3) Don't you agree that current government is not doing enough for bringing
>black money back to country / and black money hidden in our own country into the
>main stream.
>
>Government is taking all legal measures but there are difference between legal
>steps and sensationailing issues.What do you think are these PAN nos.KYC
>compliance etc.can this happen over night.
>4)Don't you think our PM has the same answer for all the problems .. i don't
>have a magic stick.. You can not control increasing prices, you not not control
>corruption, you can not bring back black money, you can not stop kalmadi, you
>can not stop raja etc. .. he has been in power for 6 years... and one doesn't
>need a magic stick to correct things if he has will to do it.
>He is not having a magic wand.he started from 1991 with Narsimha Rao and sowly
>and steadily now we count us as a world economic super power.We want good
>persons in politics and then we dont allow them to perform..
>
>For he first time so many big shots are behind bars and nobody is helping them
>out ,is this not an example setting to corrupts.....We all, opposition can go to
>TV studio and talk whatever we feel like....but government does not works on
>sensationalism....evry move can set a precedent...every law when it is initiated
>every pro and con has to be studied so that it cannot be misused....
>6 saal ......ask this question to opposition parties ..why 6 years is nothing to
>change a country ...They want result in one month ,and were unable to do
>anything for Ramlala in 6 years in government.....now saving their ..... thru
>Ramdev...next will be Rambo ,then Rameez raza.
>
>Now coming back to the issue of Ramdev baba, he might not be all honest... but
>who can claim that he is Harishchandra?
>
>Accha , to agar time pass hee karna hain then anytime, I would like to go and
>see Rakhi Sawant dancing on ramlila ground ......rather than ramdev roaming
>around in a shalwar kameez ...who knows she may turn out to be a better
>politician....
>
>
>--- On Tue, 6/7/11, pandey lalit <lalit_mohan_pandey@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>From: pandey lalit <lalit_mohan_pandey@yahoo.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र की हत्या
>>To: kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com
>>Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 2:25 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>Dear Arvind ji..
>>
>>With full respect.. I disagree with all your points ... and strongly condemn
>>changing subject from "लोकतंत्र की हत्या" to "लोकतंत्र की हत्या Baba ke dwara"
>>by you.. I find this an attempt to shift the whole discussion from what happened
>>on that night at Ramlila madain to weather Ramdev baba is correct or
>>not...weather he has a right to protest or not...
>>
>>My few very simple question are...
>>1) Who says that a Yogi (sadhu) can not lead a mass movement or be a Politician,
>>when a doctor, lawyer, teacher, business can do it.. why can't a shadu?
>>
>>2) Don't you think corruption has reached into its heights now
>>3) Don't you agree that current government is not doing enough for bringing
>>black money back to country / and black money hidden in our own country into
>>the main stream.
>>
>>
>>4) Don't you think our PM has the same answer for all the problems .. i don't
>>have a magic stick.. You can not control increasing prices, you not not control
>>corruption, you can not bring back black money, you can not stop kalmadi, you
>>can not stop raja etc. .. he has been in power for 6 years... and one doesn't
>>need a magic stick to correct things if he has will to do it.
>>
>>Now coming back to the issue of Ramdev baba, he might not be all honest... but
>>who can claim that he is Harishchandra? The issue raised by him are of national
>>interest. And everyone shouldextend their Support to everyone who stands against
>>corruption..irrespective of their name, religion and believe.
>>Now what happened that night in the Ramlila maidan : How a elected government
>>can do this with their own citizen? People has all the rights to agree with
>>someone and disagree with someone, People has all the rights to support someone
>>and choose not to support someone. How can you through teargas, lathicharge to
>>the people who assembled at ramlila maidan to support ramdev baba and issued
>>raised by him. You do not have to be Hindu, you do not have to be communal to
>>support the issue raised by him. When delhi CM says 'Delhi is not safe for women
>>in the night' How can the same people through out women, girls, kids on the
>>street in the mid of the night. How can an elected representative(KS) be so
>>arrogant.. that he says.. "what we did with people in the ramlila ground should
>>be lesson to all". I don't understand how standing infront of temple makes one
>>communal but going inside Maszid keeps him secular (this is what Digvijay singh
>>thinks).
>>
>>
>>My message to all the citizen of this country..."This has become more like
>>compulsion then a choice now, if we do not stand today and make our voice heard,
>>these corrupt people will make us voice less."
>>
>>Regards
>>Lalit
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
________________________________
From: arvind upreti <arvind1965@yahoo.com>
>>To: kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com
>>Sent: Mon, 6 June, 2011 2:51:44 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र की हत्या baba ke dwara
>>
>>
>>Ab ek aadmi jo 10000 crore ka maal kamake,haaj ko jaa rahaa hai ,woh imandaari
>>ka paath padaega....
>>As long he was teaching YOGA everything was fine....maal kamao,property banao
>>...island khareedo...cruise per scotland par yoga sikhao ...koi baat nahee....
>>Ab ek baccha ,politics mein ghusega ...toh sab jagah baap baithe hain...pehle
>>seekho phir aagey bado....
>>A boisterous narcissist...complexed by the Anna hazare phenomenon ,trying to
>>upstage him and trying to disrupt systems by carpet mobbing.......
>>Haridwar ke raasstey mein ek Noton bharee train pakadi gayee.....jaanch karne
>>par pataa chala tent house aur chartered plane wale kee payment theee.
>>
>>--- On Mon, 6/6/11, Vivek Patwal <vivekpatwal@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>From: Vivek Patwal <vivekpatwal@yahoo.co.in>
>>>Subject: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र की हत्या
>>>To: "YOUNG UTTARANCHAL" <younguttaranchal@yahoogroups.com>, "PG Group"
>>><PauriGarhwal@yahoogroups.com>, "K G" <kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com>, "JNV
>>>Tarikhet" <jnv-tarikhet@yahoogroups.com>
>>>Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 11:29 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>आदरणीय सदस्यगण,
>>>
>>>जिस तरह की घटना हमें अपने इस लोकतंत्र मे ४-५ तारीख की रात्रि को देखने को मिली,
>>>वो बहुत ही ह्रदय विदारक थी. इस घटना ने जलियावालान बाघ की यादे तरो ताज़ा कर दी,
>>>जिसके बारे मे हम लोगो सुना मात्र ही था, ऐसी बर्बरता दिखने का दुसाहस जिस प्रकार
>>>से केंद्र सरकार ने किया वो निंदनीय है, बाकि उस पर बढा अपराध ये की प्रधानमंत्री
>>>महोदय की चुप्पी,
>>>
>>>गलतिया दोनों पक्षों की थी, लेकिन अहिंसक लोगो पर ऐसी बर्बरतापूर्वक करवाई
>>>अफसोसजनक,
>>>
>>>अब तो वास्तव मे लगता है की सरकार की मंशा भ्रस्टाचार से निपटने की कतई नहीं है
>>>बाकी रहा व्यवस्था परिवर्तन का सवाल वो जनता के हाथो मे है किवो एक इमानदार नेता का
>>>चुनाव करे, पार्टी विशेष को अब हमें नकारना ही होगा, ये शायद जन मानस की अब पुकार
>>>है,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Thanks & Regards,
>>>
>>> Vivek Patwal,
>>> PH:9811511501,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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1f. Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र क�
Posted by: "arvind upreti" arvind1965@yahoo.com arvind1965
Date: Wed Jun 8, 2011 12:48 am ((PDT))

Sunil Ji ,
I totally agree to what you are trying to convey ...but in the process...some dubious types like ramdev are trying to hijack the issues ...taking advantage of the innocent mobs ....who may not understand politics and political significance...and game plan which is there in his mind....We Indians are very emotional people.....even after sting operation ...asaram,dera sachha sauda types have such a huge following...amazes me but then I feel ,why not ,this the sole reason these gurus survive....

Kaun sa guru aisee kya cheez batata hai ..jo bachpan se aapne maa baap ne nahee sikhai hai ....saali sab networking hai...

I have seen even highly literate types getting swayed and stop using their brains ,when such religious type are fooling people...

Example ,in 80's/90's .dont know whether you had experienced it ,there was a huge sense of insecurity in this country due to ram mandir and mandal agitations...I know every cause can be justified.... the same people came to governance ...dropped the issue which had propelled them to power and now they talk of eliminating corruption in one month...
This is an open forum...every body has his right of views...What I write is what I feel ...in fact...this thread was not started by me ...I just reacted on a holier than thou mail....

Communication channels like net ,FB ,SMS have created "Cut and Paste " and "Forwards" mentality ,ek "ullu ka patha" bhee free main " forward ,cut n paste" karke shows off ,how well versed he is with an issue...
In any group of 100, I can show u 98 persons doing the same and just two persons penning their own,original thoughts.....
Ye hee 98 ek he jhooth ko TV channels ki tarah 1000 baar dikha kar sach banaa detein hain....

Still we are a majority country of immature and emotional fools....and when the country is doing so good internationally and nationally ,any silly event ,can put the whole system upside down....Darta hoon kahin ye Bhare peton ki kweer , ek chalti hui cheez ko bitha na dey....

--- On Wed, 6/8/11, Sunil <skumars71@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Sunil <skumars71@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र की हत्या
To: "kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com" <kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2011, 10:12 AM

Arvind Ji,

Regards,

Sunil

From: arvind upreti <arvind1965@yahoo.com>
To: kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र की हत्या

--- On Tue, 6/7/11, pandey lalit <lalit_mohan_pandey@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Arvind ji..

Regards
Lalit

--- On Mon, 6/6/11, Vivek Patwal <vivekpatwal@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

आदरणीय सदस्यगण,

जिस तरह की घटना हमें अपने इस लोकतंत्र मे ४-५ तारीख की रात्रि को देखने को मिली, वो बहुत ही ह्रदय विदारक थी. इस घटना ने जलियावालान बाघ की यादे तरो ताज़ा कर दी, जिसके बारे मे हम लोगो सुना मात्र ही था, ऐसी बर्बरता दिखने का दुसाहस जिस प्रकार से केंद्र सरकार ने किया वो निंदनीय है, बाकि उस पर बढा अपराध ये की प्रधानमंत्री महोदय की चुप्पी,
गलतिया दोनों पक्षों की थी, लेकिन अहिंसक लोगो पर ऐसी बर्बरतापूर्वक करवाई अफसोसजनक,
अब तो वास्तव मे लगता है की सरकार की मंशा भ्रस्टाचार से निपटने की कतई नहीं है बाकी रहा व्यवस्था परिवर्तन का सवाल वो जनता के हाथो मे है किवो एक इमानदार नेता का चुनाव करे, पार्टी विशेष को अब हमें नकारना ही होगा, ये शायद जन मानस की अब पुकार है,

--
Thanks & Regards,

Vivek Patwal,
PH:9811511501,

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2. Puri Shankaracharya supports govt action against Ramdev
Posted by: "Khulbe Garden & Agro Industries" khulbegarden@yahoo.com khulbegarden
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2011 11:25 pm ((PDT))

Puri Shankaracharya supports govt action against RamdevSupporting the government's action against Ramdev, Puri Shankaracharya Adhokshajanand Dev blamed the yoga guru for all the trouble and said he should give up the saffron robe.

"Ramdev is responsible for all the disturbances. He hid the truth from his followers (about the deal struck with the government). He should apologise to them...He was misusing the saffron cloth for some years now. What happened (forceful eviction from New Delhi) is fine. He should not wear the saffron robe," he said.

He also accused Ramdev of having commercial interests in mind and said the yoga guru resorted to actions which were against the basic tenets of a saint.

"People who become gurus should give up commercial activities...Gurus and saints lead a life of renunciation and work for the welfare of others. Ramdev had commercial interests in mind and joined hands with forces fomenting trouble in the country. Therefore he should not be counted in the category of gurus," the seer told reporters here after meeting HRD Minister Kapil Sibal.

New Delhi: Baba Ramdev's close associate Acharya Balkrishna has been missing after the June 4 clash at Ramlila Maidan in New Delhi. Sources say the Government will probe the alleged fake passport Balkrishna holds. If the immigration department puts up a complaint, action will be taken against him.

The going is getting tough for Ramdev too, as the Government looks to probe his assets.

From yoga guru to would be politician to business tycoon - the meteoric rise of Baba Ramdev and his yoga and ayurveda empire is now getting as much attention as his fight against corruption.

After being evicted from Delhi, Ramdev has gone back to Haridwar. But it looks like it's not going to be an easy run for him anymore, as the government is hot on his trail.

Some of the details made available by government sources to CNN-IBN reveal a maze of companies that are run and maintained by Ramdev's key men.

Over 200 businesses from broadcasting companies including Aastha TV to food parks are run by his trusted lieutenants Acharya Balkrishna and Mukta Anand. There are no specific charges against them that the finance ministry is looking at, but a detailed income tax survey is currently being done.

Even Hindu spiritual leaders want Ramdev's assets probed.

"Ramdev has a lot of land and assets worth crores. These should be probed as well," said Puri shankaracharya Swami Adhokshjanand Tirtha.

Questions are also being asked about nationality of Balkrishna, who has mysteriously disappeared from public view after the midnight swoop at the Ramlila Maidan.

"Balkrishna is a Nepalese citizen. He committed a crime there and came to India. He also has a Nepalese passport," said Congress General Secretary Digvijaya Singh.

If that isn't enough, it now appears that Ramdev has run foul of the US FDA. He has been denied permission to sell ayurveda products in the United States. The FDA has leveled allegations of misbranding, selling products that are either not listed or not approved.

The Health Ministry says it will scrutinise the drug business of Baba Ramdev.

"We will look at these issues separately once the dust settles down," said Union Health Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad.

This is not the first brush with controversy for Ramdev. In January 2006 also, charges of land grab had surfaced. CNN-IBN had then reported that Ramdev's Patanjali Yog Peeth had grabbed government land. Now the Roorkee SDM has confirmed a farm land grab of over 2.98 hectares.

Asked about allegations of land grab against the Divya Yog Trust in 2006, Acharya Balakrishna had reacted by saying, "Who are you to ask me...who do you think you are?"

Baba Ramdev's fight against corruption has opened him to many charges and many inquires into the meteoric rise of his business in the last eight years. The Rs 1100 crore yoga-to-medicine business empire is also facing charges of land grab. But an aggressive Government probe at this point could be seen as witch-hunt of a baba, who dared the Congress and made it quite uncomfortable for them.

Regards

Khulbe

Khulbe Garden & Agro Industries

www.khulbegarden.blogspot.com

DEV BHOOMI TUMHE SAT SAT KOTI NAMAN .....

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3a. Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र क�
Posted by: "Khulbe Garden & Agro Industries" khulbegarden@yahoo.com khulbegarden
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2011 11:26 pm ((PDT))

you r rite upreti ji I am very sad to see our uttrakhandi to see RAMDEV LOVE..vo bhi itni bhir ke hote salwar kamij mai bhagne wale ke liye.. devbhoomi ke liye itna pyaar jagao to januDesh mai vahi ho raha hai jo 1947 ke pahle hota tha.. pahle gore angrej the aab vo kale ho gaye hai kyo ki indian public unke chehre nahi pahchaan payee aur unhe satta de di... aakh band kar ke support karna samajhdari nahi..aajkal jiske pas bhir hai vo sachha ye pata nhi ki vo kaun hai ?? everyone want to be in power and everyone looting india in many ways. koi trust banakar tax chori karta hai NGO ke naam par fir kahta hai black money desh mai laao aree bhai har gareeb ya job karne wale ko bhi NGO ya trust ki tarah deal karo vo to 3-10 lac kamata hai aur aap crore kama rahe ho in trust mai.. this is bad luck of our india and law made by politician .. all politician and baba's have NGO/trust why????? jaago india jaago

Regards

Khulbe

Khulbe Garden & Agro Industries

www.khulbegarden.blogspot.com

DEV BHOOMI TUMHE SAT SAT KOTI NAMAN .....

--- On Tue, 7/6/11, arvind upreti <arvind1965@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: arvind upreti <arvind1965@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र की हत्या baba ke dwara
To: kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 7 June, 2011, 4:22 AM

hahaha ....
Thats the beauty of our system....Ostrich approach....
Identify a popular cause......do something totally unexpected ...engage immature media ...and become a celebrity with "cut and paste and forwards" rolling in front of your eyes in this era of borrowed intelligence.Stop using your brains....

a simple question ,why dont the so called converst of ramdev ,hazare etc.stop evading taxes...pay everything in white money ...report bribes to police ...who is stopping them....Is the government stopping them.....
Government is not one man ...it is a system...when any new law is formulated each and every aspect has to be studied in detail and made fool proof so that it cannot be challenged in the court.....agar ek mahine mein ek law banene lagaa to 10 saal ke baad hum aap bhee jail ke peechey hongey , bina zebra crossing ke sadak par karne par.......

Can anybody give me any reason why a satyagrahi had to run away in a shalwar kameez...I find no reasons ..he was politically thinking far ahead ...and he made a fool of himself...

Sab bheed mein hoood hoood kar kar ke maze le rahey hai....

--- On Mon, 6/6/11, Dhananjay Semwal <dsemwal@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Dhananjay Semwal <dsemwal@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] लोकतंत्र की हत्या baba ke dwara
To: kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 3:51 PM

Come on -- guys.

has any one appointed Baba for his Job, and who defines who should do what Job, why we are talking about baba , how much money he has etc etc. Think about the cause that he is supporting, i guess that is the reason we should support him.

I dont know what wrong he is doing in raising tghis issue.

I am with the Baba and the cause he is supporting. This Gov is really corrupt and its all their money that why they dont want such law in place

2011/6/6 arvind upreti <arvind1965@yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 6/6/11, Vivek Patwal <vivekpatwal@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

आदरणीय सदस्यगण,

जिस तरह की घटना हमें अपने इस लोकतंत्र मे ४-५ तारीख की रात्रि को देखने को मिली, वो बहुत ही ह्रदय विदारक थी. इस घटना ने जलियावालान बाघ की यादे तरो ताज़ा कर दी, जिसके बारे मे हम लोगो सुना मात्र ही था, ऐसी बर्बरता दिखने का दुसाहस जिस प्रकार से केंद्र सरकार ने किया वो निंदनीय है, बाकि उस पर बढा अपराध ये की प्रधानमंत्री महोदय की चुप्पी,
गलतिया
दोनों पक्षों की थी, लेकिन अहिंसक लोगो पर ऐसी बर्बरतापूर्वक करवाई अफसोसजनक,
अब तो वास्तव मे लगता है की सरकार की मंशा भ्रस्टाचार से निपटने की कतई नहीं है बाकी रहा व्यवस्था परिवर्तन का सवाल वो जनता के हाथो मे है किवो एक इमानदार नेता का चुनाव करे, पार्टी विशेष को अब हमें नकारना ही होगा, ये शायद जन मानस की अब पुकार है,

--
Thanks & Regards,

Vivek Patwal,

PH:9811511501,

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4. Seeking Help for my friend Atul
Posted by: "sanju" sanjupahari@yahoo.com sanjupahari
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2011 11:29 pm ((PDT))

Dear friends, fellow group members and respected seniors,

Namaskar & greetings!

I feel
short of words and full of emotions in writing this email requesting your
attention and help.

Today,
I'm here to seek your help in getting medical aid for my friend, Mr. Atul
Pathak. Some of us might remember him as a fellow group member who was very
active during infant stage of most Uttarakhandi yahoo groups (KG, YU etc) and
participated in many in-person meetings we had in Delhi and NCR region prior to
June'2009.

Atul
met with a major road accident on 3-Jun-2009 in which he got fractures in Spinal
cord T-10-11, Ribs and shoulder. He was operated on 8-Jun-20009 at Indian
Spinal Injury Centre, Vasant Kunj New Delhi and was under treatment &
supervision of the same hospital for the following year. Thereafter, he had to
move to Dehradun (Uttarakhand) for further treatment due to financial
constrains and is still on wheel chair. He has been collecting information on
Spinal Cord Injuries for the last two years and has been advised that Stem Cell
Therapy can help him walk again. However, the complete therapy costs anywhere
between INR 3.5 to 4 Lakhs. For the only son of retired parents, with a wife to
be supported as well; it isn't easy to collect this money. Everything he earned
and his parents had saved has exhausted in his treatment over past 24 months.

Although
all of us friends are contributing as per our capabilities, yet we would not be
able to meet the target amount. Through this email we would like to request you
to please try to contribute whatever you can as
individuals/organizations/groups to help Atul. You may contribute as donation
or as a personal loan which he would like to re-pay to the lenders as soon as
he gets job once he's able to walk. Here I would like to share that Atul is a
well educated (M.Com, MBA) guy who has worked with MNCs for more than 10 years.
We also welcome anyone who would like to offer work from home opportunities to
him.

I
also request medicine practitioners reading this email to come forward to
suggest alternate therapies (if any) which can help our friend resume normal
life and in becoming able to support his family.

I
very much look forward to hear from you. Those of you who would like to lend a
helping hand in this needful hour may write back to me (sanjupahari@yahoo.com)
for further details or contact Mr. Dayal Pandey (91-99685-34993,
cudayal@gmail.com) or Atul himself at 91-89098-20212, atulpathak9@gmail.com.

God bless one & all!

Best Wishes,
Sanjupahari

P.S.: Scanned reports and a picture of Atul are attached herewith for your
ready reference

JAI PAHAR....JAI GOLU.....JAI BADRI VISHAL

1 of 1 Photo(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kumaoni-garhwali/attachments/folder/820090347/item/list

Atul.jpg

1 of 1 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kumaoni-garhwali/attachments/folder/820090347/item/list

Medical Report Atul.pdf

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5. Fwd A Legendary Story of Negi Chauhan
Posted by: "bhishma kukreti" bckukreti@gmail.com
Date: Wed Jun 8, 2011 4:58 am ((PDT))

Dear All,
mr Narendra Singh Negi sent an interesting story and Ranbhoot

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Narendra Singh Negi <negi.narendrasingh@gmail.com>
Date: 2011/6/8
Subject: Re: [PGGroup] Kaintura RanRaut Jagar
To: bckukreti@gmail.com

Dear Kukreti ji, Sadar Pranam, !

I am Narendra Singh Negi from village Akhori, Gyarhgaon, Tehri Garhwal.
Though I am silent member in the PG group, still a great admirer of your
work and writings.

I very much like all the literature, culture, history and information
brought through your e-mails and most of them are in my collection now. I
appreciate your knowledge in collecting the history of Garhwal and Kumaun
and bringing them all for the new generation (DAROHAR). Your innovative and
informative work on Garhwali language, culture, local vegetable, medicinal
plants, ancient way of curing various diseases/byadhi by TANTRA AND MANTRA
is very unique and I heartedly appreciate the dedicated and fearless work in
wiring about the same.

As usual I like the Ran-Bhoot Jagar as given in today's e-mail. I would like
to share some information on our own Ranbhoot and request you help me in
collecting the further history behind the same :

We NEGI also have Ran-Bhoot Kauthig in our village in every 3 years. The
history / story behind it is - that our forefathers were 7 brothers known
SAT BHAI CHAUHAN. One lady named Bartwalaya Boran deceived them making an
attack by Bhandari's on the them while they were sleeping. They fought till
the death and one of their queen escaped with a baby in her womb which was
the only man survived to bring all of us.

We were given the title of NEGI by the Tehri Maharaja whereas our fore
fathers used their surname as NEGI CHAUHAN which one can see in the revenue
record. In that record the name of my Grand Father is "Ishwari Singh Negi
Chauhan".

Basically it is said that on the defeat of Pritvi Raj Chauhan we escaped to
hills migrating one place to another. During migration our fore father
stayed at Kandra garh(Kandriyal), Pokhrigarh(Pokriyal and then Kordhi garh
which is very close to our village.

The jagrya uses some word like :

Aaj tera garh par Bairi Chadige, Sher ko Bachh holu Bhair Alu Syal ko Bach
holu Dulna Luki Jalu. Teri Raj Rajeswari twe ko dhai lagandi, tera
Katkeshwar Mahadev tweku Dhai Laganda. Nadput devta twek Dahai Lagnda. Sat
padya sarap tain bartwalay boran jan twe khelu lagai. AND SO ON…..

May I request you to kindly provide some more information in brief on the
history and jagar if you have nay.

Your co-operation in this regard will be highly appreciated.

With Warm regards Narendra Singh Negi

2011/6/6 bhishma kukreti <bckukreti@gmail.com>

>
>
> *Culture and Folk Literature of Asia *
>
> * Kaintura Ranraut Jagar : A Ranbhoot Legend Folklore *
>
> * *
>
> * Bhishma Kukreti *
>
> * Ranbhoot means the soul of a brave personality or souls of brave
> soldiers who died in a battle . Ranbhoot are equal to deity and goddesses
> . There is worships of Ranbhoots under Ghadela *
>
> * We may put them as the folklore of Odysseus , Philosopher's
> Stone, King Arthur and Knoghts of Round of the Round Table Legends of
> Africa , Atalantis ,Tarjan Wars, Helen and Troy , the Irish Ballads area
> as Follow me up to Carlow, Alasdair, The sash , jackets Green , The woods of
> Trugh etc *
> * The Ranbhoot are brave personalities who sacrificed their lives for
> community or for their loves ,. The following Ranbhoots are famous legends
> and people keeps Ghadela to worship them :*
> *1- Kaitura -RanRaut, 2- Teelu Rautela 3- Surju Kaunl, 4- Gadhu Sumyal 5-
> Kaffu Chauhan 6- Jagdev Panwar 7- Brahm Kunvar 8- Asha ar hari hindwan 9-
> Kali harpal 10-Madho Singh Bhandari 11- rama Dharani 12- Malu rajula 13-
> Bhanu Bhopela 14- Kalu Bhandari *
> * The following Ranbhoot Jagar is famous Jagar of Kantura-RanRaut . The
> story is like as King Arthur ; some how also reminds the love story of Hsu
> Sheng and many tragic love and war stories all over the world*
> * The beauty of poem is that the creator used many Upma Alankar
> (similarity and comaparision) very effectively . The excellence of poem also
> fit in poetic form. the raptures as Pathos, chivilary, love are well wooven.
> There is ample proof that the crator of this folk poem was knowing human
> psychology and knew dream psychology very well too. Story telling is simple
> and seems that in every age the poetic form changed with time and narrator.
> the story provides glimpose of Kaintura Raj and many Gadhis in Garhwal
> around third century *
> * कैंतुरा रणभूत जागर *
> * *
>
> **
> *होलू कालू भंडारी मालू मा कु माल *
> *अनं का कोठारा छया वैका , बसती का भंडारा *
> *गाडू घटडे छई , धारु मरूडे *
> *धनमातो छौ , छौ अन्न्मातो *
> *जीवनमातो छौ कालू स्यौ भंडारी *
> *आदि रात मा तै सुपिनो होयो *
> *सुपिना मा देखी विनी स्या ध्यानमाला *
> *देखी वैन बरफानी कांठा *
> *बरफानी कांठा देखे ध्यानमाला को डेरा *
> *चांदी का सेज देखे , सोना का फूल*
> *आग जसी आँख देखी , जिया जसी जोत *
> *बाण सी अरेंडी देखी , दई सि तरेंडी*
> *नौंण सी गळखी देखी , फूल सि कुठखी *
> * हिया सूरज देखे , पीठ मा चंदरमा *
> *मुखडी को हास देखे , मणियों का परकास *
> *कुमाळी सि ठाण देखे , सोवन की लटा*
> *तब चचडैक उठे , भिभडैक बैठे *
> *तब जिया बोदे क्या ह्वेलो मेरा त्वाई*
> *आज को सुपिनो जिया , बोलणि आंदो *
> *ना ल़े बेटा कालू सुपिना को बामो *
> *सुपिना मा मा बेटा , क्या नि देखेंदु *
> *कख नि जयेन्दु , क्या नि खायेंदु *
> *मैन ज्यूण मरणा जिया हिन्वाला ह्वेक औण *
> *तख रौंद माता, वा बांद ध्यानमाला *
> *कालू भंडारी मोनीन मोयाले *
> *तब पैटी गे वो तै नवलीगढ़ *
> *भैर को रखो छौ कालू भीतर को भूखो *
> *कथी समजाई जियान वो *
> *चली आयो वो ध्यानमाला को गढ़ *
> *ध्यान माला औणी छै पाणी का पन्द्यारा *
> *देखी औंद कालू भंडारीन वो *
> *हे मेरा प्रभू वा बिजली कखन छूटे *
> *सुपिना मा देखी छै जनी , तनी छा नौनि या *
> *आन्छरी सि सच्ची , सरप की सि बची *
> *अर देखे ध्यानमालान कालू भंडारी वो *
> *बांको जावन छौ वो बुरांस को सी फूल *
> *तू मेरी जिकुड़ी छे बांकी ध्यानमाला *
> *त्वे मा मेरो ज्यू छ *
> *सुपिनो मा देखी तू तब यख आयूँ*
> *आज तू मै तैं प्रेम की भीख दे*
> *तब ल्ही गे वो ध्यानमाला अपडो दगड *
> *कुछ दिन इनि रेन वो गुप्ती रूप मा *
> *तब बोल्दो कालू भंडारी *
> *कब तैं रौण रौतेली इनु लूकी लूकिक *
> *तब ध्यानमाला का बुबा धरम देव *
> * कालू भंडारी मिलण ऐगे *
> *सुण सूण धर्मदेव धरमदेव*
> *मै आया डांडा टपीक, गाडू बौगीक *
> *मैं जिउण मोरण राजा *
> *तेरी नौनि ध्यानमाला ल़ाण *
> *ऐलान्दो बैलोंदो तब राजा धरमदेव*
> *मेरा राज मा अयाँ होला *
> *हैंका राज से पांच भड*
> *साधी लौलो ऊँ तैं जु कालू भंडारी *
> *ब्यावोलो त्वे ध्यानमाला*
> *कालू भंडारी का जोंगा बबरैन*
> *वैका छाती का बाळ जजरैन*
> *उठाए वैन तब नंगी शमशीर *
> *चली गये हैंका हैर भड़ू साधण *
> *इतना मा गंगाडी हाट का रूपु *
> *आयो ध्यानमाला हाथ मांगण *
> *ब्यौ को दिन तब नीछे ह्व़े गये *
> *पकोड़ा पकीन, हल्दी रंगीन *
> *नवलीगढ़ मा कनो उच्छौ छायो *
> *कालू भंडारी लड़दू रेगे भड़ू सात *
> *तै के कानू मा खबर नी पौंची *
> *पिता की मर्जी , अपणी नी छें वींकी *
> *बरांडी छे किरांदी छे वा नौनि ध्यानमाला *
> *तब सुमरिण करदी वा कालू भंडारी *
> *तेरी मेरी प्रीत दूजा जनम ताई*
> *किस्मत फूटे मेरी बिधाता *
> *जोड़ी को मलेऊ फंट्याओ *
> *तब देखे वैन ध्यानमाला रोणी बराणी*
> *जाणि याले वैन होई गे कुछ ख्ट्गो*
> *रौड़दो -दौड्दो आयो माला का भौन*
> *हे मेरी माला क्या सोची छै मैन*
> *अर क्या करी गये दैव*
> *कालू भंडारी , हे कालू भंडारी *
> *मेरा पराणु को प्यारो होलो कालू भंडारी *
> *मेरा सब कुछ तू छ मैं छौं तेरी नारी *
> *देखे वीं कालू भंडारी क्वांसी आन्ख्युन*
> *हात बुर्याँ छा वैका , खुटा छा फुक्यां*
> *कांडो सि होयुं छौ वो सुकीक *
> *मेरा बाबा यें कतना तरास सहे*
> *गला लगाये वीन तब कालू भंडारी *
> *मरण जिउण ही जाण *
> *तब बोल्दु कालू भंडारी *
> *तेरी माया ध्यानमाला मैकू सोराग समान *
> *कु जाणो क्या होंद बिधाता को लेख *
> *पर मैं औंलू ब्योऊ का दिन *
> *तू मेरी माला आखिरें फेरा ना फेरी *
> *तब वखन चलिगे वो कालू भंडारी *
> *कुछ दिन बाद आये ब्यो का दिन *
> *गंगाडी हाट मा तब बारात सजे *
> *ब्यौ का ढोल दमौं घारू गाडू गजीन*
> *नवलीगढ़ राज मा भी बजदे बडई *
> *मंगल स्नान होंदु माला लैरंदी पैरंदी *
> *धार मा की गैणा सि दिखेंदी माला *
> *बोलदी तब वींको जिया मुलमुल हंसी *
> *ध्यानमाला होली राजौं का लेख *
> *गंगाडीहाट का रूपु गंगसारा की *
> *तब नवलिगढ़ बारात चढ़े *
> *मंगल पिठाई हुए षटरस भोजन *
> *तब ब्यौ को लग्न आये , फेरों का बगत *
> *छै फेरा फेरीं मालान , सातों नी फेरे *
> *मै अपण गुरु देखण देवा *
> *तबरेक ऐयीगे तख साधू एक *
> *कालू भंडारी छ कालू भंडारी *
> *पछाणी मुखडी वैकी मालान *
> *वींको आंख्यी मा तब आस खिलगे*
> *प्रफुल ह्व़े गे तब वा ध्यानमाला *
> *मेरा गुरुआ होला तलवारी नाच का गुरु *
> *मै देखणु चांदु जरा नाच ऊंको *
> *तब गुरु स्सधू बेदी का ध्वार आइगे *
> *नंगी शमशीर चमकाई वैन *
> *एक फरकणा फुन्ड़ो मारी एक मारी उन्डो *
> *पिंडालू सि काटिन वैन गोद्डा सी फाडींन *
> *कुछ भागिन , कुछ मारे गेन *
> *मारये गे वू रूपु गन्गसारो भी *
> *तब बल मु ध्यानमाला ही छुटी गये *
> *लौट आन्दु तब वीमुं कालू भंडारी *
> *ओ मेरी माला आज जनम सुफल ह्व़े गे *
> *अगास की ज़ोन पायी मैं फूलूं की सि डाळी *
> *तब जिकुड़ा लगैले हातून मा धरिले वा *
> *आज मेरो मन क मुराद पुरी होए *
> *तबरे लुक्युं उठै रूपु का भाई *
> *लूला गंगोला वैकु नाम छायो *
> *मारी दिने वैन कालू भंडारी धोखा मा *
> *रोये बराए तब राणी ध्यानमाला *
> *पटके जन उखड़ सि माछी *
> *मैं क तैं पायूँ सुहाग हरचे *
> *मैंक तैं मांगी भीख खतेणे *
> *कं मैकू तैं दैव रूठे *
> *रखे दैणी जंगा पर वीन कालू को सिर *
> *बाएँ जंग पर धरे वो रूपु गंगसारी *
> *रोंदी बरांदी चढ़े चिता ऐंच *
> *सती होई गे तब ध्यानमाला *
> *References:*
> *Shambhu Prasad Bahuguna in Virat Hriday*
> *Dr Govind Chatak : Garhwali Lok gathayen*
> *Dr Shiva Nand Nautiyal Garhwal ke Lok Nrity Geet *
> *Copyright Bhishma Kukreti for commentarty *
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6. Bwari : A Most Distinguished Humorous Poem of Asia ब्वा�
Posted by: "bhishma kukreti" bckukreti@gmail.com
Date: Wed Jun 8, 2011 4:58 am ((PDT))

*Humour in Asian Literature *

* Bwari : A Most Distinguished Humorous Poem of Asia
*

* ब्वारी : महाकवि कन्हैया लाल डंडरियाल रचित कालजयी
हास्य कविता *

* (Humor in Garhwali Literature, Humor in Himalayan
literature Humor in Indian literature)*

* Bhishma Kukreti *

* Humour is defined by various philosophies and
literature critics. In modern time , the psychologists have been busy in
carrying out various researches to find out the cause and effect of humor
creation by various medium. For example Ritter et all (1974) found humor
explanation from philosophical lexicon of German language and stated that
humor is used in every language for all laughter phenomenon, occurrences,
experiences etc.*

* Humor is recorded in many old texts of all civilizations available
with us as in Greek (Ruch, 2007), Egyptian old manuscripts, old Sanskrit
literature .In a Sanskrit classic, Natty Shashtra, Bharat explains to use of
humor in poetry and drama. Ritter (1974) detailed psychology of humor
according to age and in context of Europe and stated that since 1565, humors
were used to described unstable behaviour or mood, negative or positive
mood states as bad humor or good humor .. Roeckelein (2002) and Ruch (2004)
stated that by beginning of 17th century in Europe, good humor or positive
mood making humor referred to temperament/disposition trait or habit.*

* The research scholar of University of Fribourg,
Andrea C. Samson describes that humor has two system. First is from
aesthetic view where humour designates only one element of comic and is
distinguished fro other wit or ridicule. Notable, in this theory the base of
humor is sympathy and is benevolent. *

*According to Andrea, the other system describes humor is used as Umbrella
term for all funny happening s, events or phenomenon. Usually, currently
humor is recognized as *

*1- Playful recognition, enjoyment or and creation of incongruity *

*2-A composed, tranquil view on adversity and creates good mood or is
positive. *

*3- Capability of others smiling and or laughing *

*Ruch (2004, 2007 ) stated that here, humor is treated as neutral term and
is not restricted to positive meaning.*

*Suls (1972) assumed that there are two stages in humor process that first
the incongruity or absurdity is detected and then and then it has to be
resolved which is similar to a problem solving solution. While,
psychoanalysts as Attardo , Koulson, Kutas assumed three stages of humor
process- 1- Encoding 2-Detection of Absurdness or incongruity 3-Incongruity
resolution (problem solution) . It is definite that each stage may overlap
on each other.*

* From non sense humor point of view, McGhee (19900 assumed three
types of nonsense humor *

*1-The punch line may not provide resolution at all *

*2- Provide a partial resolution*

*3-Actuality creates new absurdness*

*McGhee assumes that in nonsense humor, the resolving information creates
the impression of making sense out of the absurdness actually without doing
so. *

* Rothbart and Pien (1977) suggested to differentiate between possible
and impossible incongruities and in between complete and incomplete
resolution *

*A-Impossible absurdness or incongruity are the elements which are
unexpected , not guessed and are also impossible given one's present
knowledge of the world or within the audience's current society *

*B- Possible Absurdness elements are which are unexpected but there is
complete or mere possibility of there being here or somewhere.*

*C-Complete Resolution is the initial absurdness or incongruity follows
completely from resolution information or informing medium*

*D- Incomplete Resolution is the initial absurdness or incongruity follows
from resolution information in the same manner but is not made completely
meaningful due to the reason that the real situation is impossible *

* Due to lack of valid psychological researches , there are many general
theories of humour too as the theory of Semantic Script Theory of
Humor by Raskin
and General Theory of Verbal Humor (GTVH) by Attardo and Raskin . from
literature point of view the vocabulary of GTVH is very interesting as *

*1- Language (LA): According to them , the language is verbalization of the
text word, choice, placement of functional elements etc. The example of LA
are punning and position of punching line*

*2-Nnarrative Strategy : The narrative strategy is narrative structure of
humour or genre . The examples of Narrative strategy are narration, riddles,
question –answers dialogues.*

*3- Situation: The situation in GTVH is the situational embedding jokes,
characters, activities, objects, setting etc. The examples are Doctor's
jokes and jokes about blondes .*

*4- Target : The Target in GTVH is that often humor aims at (social)
stereotype as 'butts and example is Austrians and Scott etc *

*5- Script Opposition: From the view of GTVH, the script opposition is the
central requirement for the generation of humorous effect due to opposition
as good verses bad or possible verses impossible .*

*6- Logical mechanism: The logical mechanism from the GTVH angle is
cognitive operation needed to achieve resolution (partial) by incongruity or
absurdness as - juxtaposition , false analogy, figure ground reversal.*

* *

* Bwari : a Great Asian Poem by Dandriyal*

* When the reader will study the following poem of
Great Poet (Mahakavi) Kanhayalal Dandriyal, they will find that the blending
of Hindi phrases with Garhwali phrases, the language ( Words used in this
poem) , the narration, the specific words, happenings against the
expectation or against customary wisdom , the wholeness of poem , script,
and logical mechanism created by various figures of speeches make this poem
a great Poem of Asian Literature . The great poet also did experiment with
form .*
* ब्वारी *
* ( महाकवि कन्हैया लाल डंडरियाल रचित कालजयी हास्य
कविता )*
* भाई जी ने मैखुणि कि ब्वारी क्या खुज्याई है *
* कपाळी हुंच्याई है मेरी थुंथरी
थिचाई है *
* अफ्फु को त भात , मैकू झंगोरा पकाती है *
* मेरा बांठा बाडिम वा दबळी बि
नही चलाती है *
* मैंने माँगा मांड उसने आंखी भ्वंराई हैं *
* गालुन्द मेरा
बंसतुळी से परछोणी खल्याई है *
* की मैंने कम्पलेंट भाई जी के पास में *
* ही मेरी पेशी झट बौऊ के
इजलास में *
* भौत गन्ग्जाये हम अपणी सफाई में *
* हार गए केस कोई मिली नहीं
गवाही है *
* चचराने लगी वह मैंने खा शट अप *
* बिलकी चट शांक्युं फर
ह्वेगे मैकू टपटप *
* खैंची मैंने भिटुलि , उसने चुप्पा झम्मडाई है *
* पड़ी गे ऐड़ाट मेरो , वह
भि डगड्याइ है *
* चढी तब नडाक मुझे , बौंळी चट बिटाई है *
* करता हूं मै सळपट तैने
क्या चिताई है *
* बर्बराई चट , वा , उसने मुछ्याळी उठाई है *
* भागे लुकणो वैबरी
तिखन्डी खुज्याई है *
* Copyright @ Bhishma Kukreti, **bckukreti@gmail.com*<bckukreti@gmail.com>
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